You Asked, The Gymternet Answered

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It’s time for the 172nd edition of You Asked, The Gymternet Answered! We apologize if we haven’t gotten to your question yet, but we try to answer in the order in which they were received (unless they are super relevant and need to be answered in a timely manner). Something you want to know? Ask us anonymously by going through the contact form at the bottom of the page.

Why is aerobic gymnastics not a part of USA Gymnastics since it is an FIG discipline? Is the U.S. sending any aerobic gymnasts to the World Games? Does the U.S. compete at aerobic worlds?

I’m not sure…there are aerobic clubs in the U.S., there is a national aerobic championships, and in 2014, Nicole Kaloyanov won the first world championships medal for the U.S. with a silver medal for her performance. However, despite being a FIG discipline with FIG-sanctioned meets, aerobic gymnastics seems to have its own governing body in the U.S., one completely unrelated to USA Gymnastics.

My guess is that it could just be that USA Gymnastics is a relatively young federation, and it seemed to kind of add disciplines along the way as it grew into the huge powerhouse organization it is today. The national association for aerobic gymnastics in the U.S. was founded in 1983, completely separate from USA Gymnastics at its inception and not yet an FIG discipline, so it could just be that it had no desire to merge with a wider governing body once it became legitimate. As of 1989, the national governing body for aerobics is officially the United States Competitive Aerobic Federation (USCAF), which still predates aerobics as an FIG discipline, which happened in 1996. By that point, USA Gymnastics and USCAF were two distinct governing bodies, so while there was possibly a chance to merge the two, it’s likely that there were logistic issues or just a lack of desire to make this work out.

So while USA Gymnastics won’t be sending any aerobic gymnasts to the World Games, I think USCAF as the sport’s national governing body could have sent gymnasts if they qualified any to the event. I don’t see anything on the USCAF website that has any info about teams, though!

Is any U.S. gymnast currently training two vaults?

The only one I know who is training two vaults with hopes of getting a worlds spot to fight for a medal on the event is Jade Carey. If you’re like “who’s that?” it’s because this is her first year competing elite! She qualified to nationals at the American Classic at the ranch and reportedly has an Amanar and a tsuk double full, a combo that could put her on the podium if she hits.

Who do you think has/had the best Bhardwaj?

In terms of both being beautiful and being consistently beautiful, I’m gonna go with Peng Peng Lee. I could watch her do that skill on a loop for the rest of my life. It’s heavenly, and she has perfected it to such an insane degree.

What’s up with Emily Gaskins and Emily Schild?

Emily Gaskins is still competing elite and was supposed to compete at the American Classic, but ended up withdrawing, though she should be at the U.S. Classic. Emily Schild has retired from elite and is currently taking classes at the University of Georgia, where she is a freshman expected to begin competing when the 2018 season begins!

What are ‘timers?’

Timers are basically warmup vaults. If a gymnast typically vaults a Yurchenko double, for example, for her timers, she might just throw a couple of Yurchenko layouts, and then maybe do a full or two before getting to the double. In the gym when gymnasts are training vault, they don’t just go straight to their competition vaults…they usually work on drills and stuff first so they can work their way up to their more difficult skills. So at a competition, it would be pretty unsafe to just casually bust out a difficult vault, and so in the warmup before the meet, they’ll do a couple of easier vaults first so they can just kind of safely work up to the competition vault. Usually timers are about getting air awareness or the feel of the vault in the air, so there’s zero emphasis on landing, which is why you’ll see gymnasts land them to their backs on stacked mats, or flip out of them…it’s so they don’t injure their ankles or knees on a hard landing for something like a warmup!

Is Viktoria Komova training?

Yup! She is hoping to compete this fall. I don’t know if she’ll be ready for worlds, but she’s posted several videos of herself working out and throwing skills in the gym, so hopefully she’ll be back internationally by next year.

Why are Madison Kocian, Aly Raisman, Gabby Douglas, Simone Biles, and Laurie Hernandez still on the national team if some of them aren’t even training? How does that work?

Gymnasts are technically on the national team for one year since being named, so from the time they were named in June 2016 to the time the next national team is named in August 2017, those gymnasts are on the national team unless they specifically say they’ve retired. That’s why some gymnasts — Brenna Dowell, Amelia Hundley, Rachel Gowey, Emily Schild, and Maggie Nichols — are all showing up as ‘retired’ on the national team list, because they have specifically said they have retired. But the Final Five likely never said “I’m retired” because they have all expressed interest in maybe returning. Rather than say they’re retired and then decide to make a comeback, it’s easier for them to just be like “yeah I’m still going for 2020” and then decide later on if they’re not going to train or compete again.

Typically gymnasts who are not currently “productive” members of the national team don’t receive funding, so it’s not like these five are getting money to not train or compete. According to the international elite committee meeting from last December, “current national team members must attend the January 2017 camp and meet 80% expectations if they are to continue with funding. If current national team members do not attend, the funding will be distributed to athletes decided upon by the selection committee,” so any new additions to the national team last spring — like Olivia Dunne, Alyona Shchennikova, etc — picked up the funding that girls who retired or who aren’t currently training are no longer receiving.

Does Ashton Locklear get the high bar raised for her at competitions or does she perform skills that accommodate her height well?

She’s actually not that tall!! Hahaha…I’d say maybe a little over five feet. She just looks taller I guess, probably because of her body type? Generally gymnasts (or, well, people in general) look taller if they’re like, kind of long and lean? I always assumed Nastia Liukin was super tall and while she definitely was a little taller than some of her teammates, she still wasn’t as tall as I expected her to be. So no, Ashton definitely does not get the bar raised for her. 🙂

It seems the top all-around scores have gone down since the Olympics. Is this due to a decrease in difficulty? Or due to a change in the code?

Both. First of all, the code changed, getting rid of a 0.5 D dismount requirement on bars, beam, and floor and taking vaults down by about 0.5 each to match, so all-around scores in general will be two points lower on average than they were last quad (so someone getting a 58 AA this quad would be like someone getting a 60 AA last quad). On top of that, scores are generally a bit lower this early in the quad because obviously no one wants to be at full Olympic-level difficulty 3+ years before the next Olympic Games. A gymnast with an Amanar in 2016 might only have a DTY this year, and someone with eight E+ skills on bars in Rio maybe will take out a bunch of inbars and replace them with easier skills. It’s not the case for everyone, and in some instances, we are even seeing upgrades, like Mai Murakami adding an Amanar, Nina Derwael upgrading her bars, Liu Tingting going crazy on beam, Sae Miyakawa adding elements on floor…but none of these gymnasts are the top-level all-around competitors, so you’re not really going to see their big upgrades reflected in the best all-around scores of the season. Once we get to worlds, the scores will start rising a bit, and then by the time we get to the end of this quad, we’ll most likely have gymnasts scoring a 60+ AA in the new code, which would be like a 62 AA last quad.

Is Shang Chunsong still around?

Yup. She’s doing National Games this year, but we’ll see how long she lasts beyond that. She seems to be struggling a lot this year with getting injured mid-routine every other second, so she hasn’t really been one of the top-performing Chinese gymnasts and I don’t think she could get to worlds without some major fixes. But yes, she’s still around and training!

Is Larisa Iordache ready for worlds?

Probably not right this second because it’s July and worlds are nearly three months away, but I expect she’ll be ready by October. She’s hoping to do all-around at Universiade coming up, so that would be a great low-pressure meet to get back into the all-around, and then hopefully she’ll be an all-around medal contender in Montreal.

Is a Grigoras the same thing as an Arabian in the new code?

No, they’re different skills. An arabian is a back flip with a twist halfway that turns it into a front flip, and a Grigoras is a barani, which is a front flip with a half twist (there are several barani skills on beam but a Grigoras is tucked with the twist coming just after the salto). They’re both rated the same (an F I believe) but are different skills.

Is Sanne Wevers the first gymnast to perform an Arabian mount? She’s training one now. What would it be rated?

No, Tina Erceg of Croatia performed a roundoff Arabian several years ago and got it named for her. It’s an F.

Did all three of Russia’s gymnasts fall on beam in 2015? What happened in Seda Tutkhalyan’s routine?

Yes, all three fell, Maria Kharenkova on her L turn and Viktoria Komova on her arabian, though I never got to see Seda’s routine so I’m not sure where her mistake came in…I just know she fell based on her score and someone at the meet later saying to me “Seda fell on beam.”

How competitive is an offer of admission to an NCAA team, especially in the top 12 schools? How many athletes have a full ride scholarship vs a partial vs no scholarship on those top teams compared to less competitive teams?

Everyone in NCAA division I has a full scholarship since they don’t give partial scholarships. It’s pretty competitive for the top schools, but any elite or top level 10 won’t have much of a problem getting into a top ten gymnastics program unless there’s a personality clash with the coach or team or something. In general, there are around 700 NCAA full scholarships at any given time, and the U.S. level 10 and elite programs combined are at about 3000 for all age groups each year. Anywhere from about 300-400 of these gymnasts each year are age-eligible to move from J.O. or elite to NCAA, and the NCAA can provide for more than half of those, so compared to other sports like football and baseball where only 5% of kids who play in high school will get NCAA scholarships, your odds of getting a scholarship are pretty good (around 50%) if you’re level 10, and probably around 100% if you’re an elite. So while it’s definitely competitive in some senses, since each team can only bring in a few kids each year and , compared to other athletes in the top levels of their sports, top-level gymnasts are pretty close to having NCAA spots guaranteed (and those who quite aren’t high-level enough for DI scholarships can always get a partial scholarship in DII, or compete for no scholarship but instead for their passion for the sport in DIII).

Is it possible to lose your NCAA scholarship? If there are five big recruits but only four scholarships available, is it possible to take one away from an underperforming team member?

Yes, gymnasts can lose NCAA scholarships if they violate rules or struggle academically. Coaches can’t really take away scholarships for “underperforming” student-athletes, but they can dismiss athletes for problems with attitude or sportsmanship, so if someone is underperforming and is a bad teammate, they can probably figure out away to drop her. They wouldn’t really be able to take away a scholarship from a weaker athlete on the team just because they want a stronger recruit to come in, though. Sometimes teams do get ‘stuck’ with gymnasts who maybe get injured or aren’t as strong skill-wise as they were when they were recruited, but more often than not, these gymnasts end up helping out in other ways that are just as valuable.

What does it mean that Jazmyn Foberg is going to Florida a year early? Did she finish high school early?

Yup! Often gymnasts who are homeschooled or who have worked out programs with public or private schools that allow them to be able to train at all hours of the day will be able to finish school a bit earlier than students on a regular schedule because they might do classes in the summer or whatever. They also don’t have as many credit requirements, because most homeschool kids don’t have to do like, a phys ed credit, or blow-off classes like woodshop or typing or whatever. In the first semester of my senior year of high school, I had chemistry, ballet, “teacher’s aide,” and chorus. In my sophomore year I had “workplace dynamics” which I still don’t understand the point of to this day, and I also had “webpage design” in which I basically updated the school’s website for free. Reading back over this I’m kind of shocked and low key wanna email my old principal and be like “are you kidding me?” Public high school can be ridiculous with random elective requirements, and had I been homeschooled I probably could’ve finished everything in less than half the time, haha. So I can easily see how gymnasts who really only train and do their schoolwork would finish their high school studies pretty early without all of the distracting classes.

Does a gymnast have to have some type of “English” tie to compete NCAA? Can a gymnast from Romania get a scholarship or become a walk-on?

Most colleges require international students to pass the TOEFL, which is an English language test that measures your ability to use and understand the language. Several NCAA students are from non-English-speaking countries, with Germany and Austria generally sending a couple of gymnasts over every so often. Many Romanian gymnasts tend to accept prizes and sponsors at the elite level, so they wouldn’t be eligible for NCAA in that sense, but if a gymnast who was never really big on the elite scene could understand English well enough to pass the TOEFL and had her academic situation worked out, she could definitely get a scholarship to an NCAA program in the U.S.

Who are your top five favorite gymnasts?

It changes all the time, but right now for those currently competing I’d go with Morgan Hurd, Liu Tingting, Nina Derwael, Mai Murakmi, and Ana Padurariu. Runners up would be Flavia Saraiva, Elena Eremina, and Eythora Thorsdottir.

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38 thoughts on “You Asked, The Gymternet Answered

  1. Wasn’t Daniela Silivas going to do NCAA at … either Utah or Georgia but something bureaucratic didn’t work out and it never happened? I remember people saying it was kind of sad, she wanted to continue to compete but it all fell through.

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    • Daniela wanted to continue through to the Barcelona to try and win a major all around title before she retired but the Romanian Revolution from the end of 1989 to 1990 caused a bunch of gyms to close down, forcing her into retirement. Possibly she wanted to do NCAA just to compete to some degree, or to “sneak” back into the elite world, but I don’t know.

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      • UEG: Can you talk us through what happened in your life after your gymnastics career?

        Silivas: After the Romanian Revolution in 1990 I decided to retire. Things had drastically changed in Romania and I was ready for the next chapter in my life. I never thought I would be living in the United States, but I came here after some friends encouraged me to try.

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  2. Omg an amanar and tsuckahara combo! That’s something you don’t see everyday. Has anyone ever had that combination of vaults before?

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  3. Actually, homeschool students have MORE requirements than public/private school students in most states (and most do require a phys ed elective). To be eligible to compete at a NCAA school, their coursework must pass NCAA’s rigorous approval process. In addition, if a homeschool student wants to qualify for state funded academic scholarships for college they have to have HIGHER SAT/ACT scores than their public/private peers. However, you are correct in the fact that their courses are more applicable to them because they don’t have to deal with scheduling issues and can finish courses more quickly because they are spending their time actually studying rather than navigating a typical school day.

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    • Yeah, that’s what I meant — that classwork is more relevant and that they don’t have to deal with a lot of the nonsense of public schools. I didn’t mean that homeschool was easier — just that there’s less BS to deal with, and once the fluff is gone, you’re able to actually focus and get things done way faster, especially if you’re working through the summer. I was homeschooled for a semester of high school (well, “on the road”-schooled, it was while on a national tour in a musical) and I got everything done in probably 25% of the time I was able to get things done in actual school because I was an independent learner and I felt that a lot of the classroom nonsense was just killing time (like, do we really need to act out “Romeo and Juliet” with everyone taking the entire 90 minutes to read a simple scene because there’s giggling and tom foolery when I could’ve read the whole play on my own?). My electives while homeschooled were AP classes. My high school didn’t offer those but did offer about 100 nonsense classes that made no sense. And I read that most athletes who homeschool don’t have to do a phys ed credit because their sport counts as that basically.

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      • “Yeah, that’s what I meant — that classwork is more relevant and that they don’t have to deal with a lot of the nonsense of public schools.”

        I was homeschooled from preschool through fourth grade. I was not allowed to have teachers or classmates, or to meet anyone new or go anywhere new. I was not allowed to establish any sort of independence that I did not already have at the age of three. I was not allowed to have a three-ring binder or a schedule or to practice organization or time management of any sort. I was never allowed to try following along with either spoken instructions or visual demonstrations, or to practice any sort of communication other than reading. I was never allowed to hear the accents or speech patterns of people outside the home. I rarely got to do arts and crafts projects or science labs or anything hands-on. I was never allowed to have either recess or physical education, or to do anything more physically strenuous than walking from one room of the house to another. I never even got to carry a backpack. No one ever even bothered to teach me how to turn the television on. I was literally bored to tears day in and day out, but when I cried, I was given a spanking for “throwing a tantrum,” and subjected to several hours of my mother complaining about what a spoiled brat I was. I developed a stereotypic pacing habit and self-destructive habits like a bored animal in a zoo. I was taught to read, and I became better at it than most public school students because I didn’t have anything else to do–as you put it, I didn’t have to deal with the “nonsense” of public schools. As an adult, I have never caught up with people who attended real schools from early childhood. I am unemployed and have no marketable job skills (no one will pay you to just sit and read, or to pace). I do not have friends and can never get married. I do not have the observational skills required to drive a car. I cannot follow along with spoken instructions very well, or easily communicate via any avenue other than reading or writing. I do not have anywhere close to a normal level of strength or physical coordination, and probably never will. This is all thanks to having a simplified education without the “nonsense” of public schools. I know I’m not the only person who’s been affected in such a negative way. My neighbors are homeschooling their son, and he spends hours each day riding his bike up and down our short street. If he can ride a bike, he’s doing better than I was at the same age, but it is obvious to me that he has long blank spaces in his schedule where he has nothing to do and no one to talk to or play with (I rarely see him with any other kids), and he’s just stagnating and not learning anything. He’d be more productive and probably happier in a public school art class.

        I would highly recommend that you check out the website Homeschoolers Anonymous, so that you can learn about the reality of homeschooling rather than the idealized portrayal it gets in the media.

        “I didn’t mean that homeschool was easier — just that there’s less BS to deal with, and once the fluff is gone, you’re able to actually focus and get things done way faster, especially if you’re working through the summer.”

        When you’re homeschooling and your mom gets sick, there’s no substitute teacher, and if you get sick there’s no class to move on without you, so you just continuously fall behind. We always did school way into the summer and we never got ahead. Homeschoolers who do get ahead are usually only able to do so by virtue of not actually doing as much as students in real schools.

        “I was homeschooled for a semester of high school (well, “on the road”-schooled, it was while on a national tour in a musical) and I got everything done in probably 25% of the time I was able to get things done in actual school because I was an independent learner and I felt that a lot of the clasroom nonsense was just killing time”

        Your experience was nothing like the experience of most people who refer to themselves as having been homeschooled, and you should probably not refer to yourself as having been homeschooled.

        “like, do we really need to act out “Romeo and Juliet” with everyone taking the entire 90 minutes to read a simple scene because there’s giggling and tom foolery when I could’ve read the whole play on my own?”

        Yes. Acting out a play, reading it with other people and hearing their reactions is far more engaging and fosters better understanding than passively reading by yourself, even if it takes longer.

        “My electives while homeschooled were AP classes. My high school didn’t offer those but did offer about 100 nonsense classes that made no sense.”

        Your high school does sound a little strange. In the county where I live, all public high schools offer pretty much every AP class in existence and students are practically manipulated into taking them so the school district can brag about it. However, the “nonsense classes that made no sense” at your school probably did offer opportunities to interact with other people and learn things other than written academic work.

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        • School is a person-to-person experience, and MY experience was that public school was a waste of my time, which probably isn’t the case for most and I fully understand why school exists as a thing but for me, it wasn’t the best learning environment. I’ve always been a better and faster learner on my own. My experiences with homeschool and independent study were far more preferable to me than a traditional public school, because for me, my school left me feeling bored. When I did get opportunities for independent study, I excelled at a far greater level. From a strictly academic standpoint, an independent/homeschool study environment was ideal for me, and for my personality type. Many gymnasts also feel this way, and with my situation as a professional child actor and the situation of high-performance athletes, school is kind of a second-rate environment for socialization. I felt anxious and awkward in school, had few friends because I didn’t fit in with people in my peer group, and hated every second of being there. Then I’d leave school and go to Boston for rehearsals and performances in the evenings and I felt like a normal person. My friends were my castmates, and unlike my peers at school who socialized mainly with other students their age, my socialization environment included people years younger and older than me. At 15, I was friends with people younger and older than me. My best friends at that time were between the ages of 12 and 23, and as part of my job, I regularly had to communicate in a professional manner with adults. My socialization via theater was about one billion percent more valuable to me than any ‘socialization’ that happened at school, and that’s how it is for most homeschooled gymnasts as well, all of whom are part of teams where they are working with other athletes younger and older than them in addition to having professional relationships with coaches. Again, for everyone, homeschooling isn’t ideal, especially for kids who don’t have something like performance or sports to provide an environment to socialize. But not everyone fits into the traditional school environment as easily as you suggest, and for many, homeschooling is preferable. Your experience sounds extreme and nothing like the homeschooling situations my friends have gone through, and I agree that homeschooling can be especially dangerous for people who don’t get exposure to things outside their front door, but I wouldn’t have been ivy league-accepted and graduated without my terms of independent study and my experiences outside of my public school, so I’m grateful for having a slightly unique experience and wish my entire education prior to college had been independent study. Most people do need some sort of traditional education, but for some people independent study is ideal and it’s how they’re able to thrive both academically and through other artistic or athletic pursuits.

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    • “Actually, homeschool students have MORE requirements than public/private school students in most states.”

      In most states, homeschoolers are under no effective oversight whatsoever. Trying to regulate homeschoolers is like trying to herd cats. Most laws regarding homeschoolers cannot be enforced in any practical way, and most homeschooling parents evade requirements by simply ignoring any they happen not to like.

      “To be eligible to compete at a NCAA school, their coursework must pass NCAA’s rigorous approval process.”

      In other words, they have to meet the same requirements as people attending accredited traditional schools, except homeschoolers create more work for other people because their coursework has to be evaluated individually.

      “In addition, if a homeschool student wants to qualify for state funded academic scholarships for college they have to have HIGHER SAT/ACT scores than their public/private peers.”

      I’ve never heard of any such rule, and your state is very unusual if it has such a rule.

      “However, you are correct in the fact that their courses are more applicable to them because they don’t have to deal with scheduling issues and can finish courses more quickly because they are spending their time actually studying rather than navigating a typical school day.”

      Because they spend their time “actually studying rather than navigating a typical school day,” they usually know how to do formal pencil-and-paper bookwork, but do not have the practical organizational skills required to function in a more complex environment.

      I would highly recommend that you visit the website “Homeschoolers Anonymous,” where you can read the stories of actual homeschoolers and understand the reality of homeschooling instead of the idealized portrayal the media provides.

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  4. Unless I missed something, isn’t Sanne Wevers competing a roundoff, Onodi mount and not an Arabian? And if so, she wouldn’t be the first to perform as Jacqui Dunn of Australia performed it back it 2003 and got it named after her.

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  5. I actually do think some NCAA gymnasts are on partial scholarships. Gymnastics is a head count sport, so at most only 12 people can have scholarships but they’re not full all the time. Not all programs have full funding. If school X has a $400,000 scholarship budget and tuition is $40,000, the coach can either give 10 athletes full rides or split them up between 12 people.

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    • Also walk-ons at DI schools don’t have scholarships usually, although of course some eventually preform well enough to get them, and lots of teams have walk-ons who make lineups. I thought each DI NCAA school had a specific number of scholarships to award, but that they could have as many walk-ons as they wanted.

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      • Yeah I was really confused by how she worded it too. It sounds like she’s basically saying everyone that is on a D1 team is on scholarship, but we all know walk on totally happen everywhere. But what I think she was trying to say is that everyone at D1 schools with a scholarship has a full ride, not partial. But I really didn’t think this was the case. Is that really true. Either you’re full scholarship or walk on basically? And for some reason I thought the number of scholarships they can offer was limited by the NCAA and wasn’t a huge number, or maybe it was based on money, but either way, wouldn’t you get more by splitting some and offering partial scholarships?

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        • Yes, you’re either a full scholarship or a walk-on. Not all D1s give scholarships, so that comment is right — I went to a D1 that was ivy league and so our athletes didn’t get scholarships. But no D1 schools give partial scholarships, at least not for gymnastics.

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  6. Re athletes who are actually upgrading in the post-Olympic year–I wonder if this could be strategic. With many big players out of the way, maybe small programs can get a better chance of a worlds medal if they focus on upgrades this year rather than setting sights on the Olympics. To gymnerds a worlds medal I think has less clout if it’s a post-Olympic year, but I wonder if for increasing funding it doesn’t matter to federations. The medals aren’t as prestigious as Olympic medals, but they may be all a federation can hope for. I’m totally just speculating here, though.

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    • Completely agree with that. With much less competition, this is the best chance for many gymnasts to make it big at worlds and hopefully win some medals. By 2020, everyone will be on top of their game and it will be much more difficult to make an event finals, much less win a medal.

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  7. Quick correction: Komova plans to compete by December for the Voronin Cup, not the fall. Rodienko wants her to compete in August if ready, and has repeated that several times, but Komova has remained firm in her position that she will not compete before December.

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  8. Just a *small* correction – not all Div 1 schools offer scholarships. The Ivy League, which is Div 1, is not allowed to award athletic (or academic) scholarships. For gymnastics, Yale, Brown, Cornell, and Penn have teams, and none of them are on scholarship. Teams are generally composed of Level 9s through former elite.

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    • That someone is Norah; on her instagram she has a lengthy post thanking everyone who has helped her through her elite career and her retirement announcement. For the next year she will train and compete Level 10 routines before heading off to UCLA.

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      • Sounds very Ohashi esque. Did she have a serious injury that didnt allow her to perform as difficulty routines? Sucks. She was co clean

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        • No need. You can see she’s the exact same height or slightly shorter than most of her teammates on the cover of the classic senior guide. Considering gymnasts at the elite level are typically 5’1-5’2, she’s probably right around there. Ashton appears taller because she’s slender for one, and her legs are proportionally long.

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  9. “They also don’t have as many credit requirements, because most homeschool kids don’t have to do like, a phys ed credit, or blow-off classes like woodshop or typing or whatever.”

    This depends on what “umbrella school” or curriculum you’re using, if any.

    “In the first semester of my senior year of high school, I had chemistry, ballet, “teacher’s aide,” and chorus.”

    All of which sound like good classes. I admit you probably didn’t learn much by being a teacher’s aide, but you probably did do small things to help someone else, which is still worthwhile.

    “In my sophomore year I had “workplace dynamics” which I still don’t understand the point of to this day, and I also had “webpage design” in which I basically updated the school’s website for free.”

    Workplace dynamics does sound sort of pointless. You did not update the school’s website for free; you did it for academic credit, which is about all you can expect until you are well-practiced enough at a skill that people will pay you money to do it. The practice you got seems to have served you well. Kind of ironic that you would portray this as a blow-off class on the website that you now maintain.

    “Reading back over this I’m kind of shocked and low key wanna email my old principal and be like ‘are you kidding me?'”

    And I’m thinking “Are you kidding me?” as I read your criticism of what sounds like a good education.

    “Public high school can be ridiculous with random elective requirements, and had I been homeschooled I probably could’ve finished everything in less than half the time, haha.”

    Electives are one of the most fun parts of attending public high school. If you had been homeschooled, you wouldn’t have had all these opportunities that you apparently take for granted, and depending on your level of self-discipline, you may not have finished at all, or you may have earned a diploma without truly having the life experiences that are necessary to participate in the larger society.

    “So I can easily see how gymnasts who really only train and do their schoolwork would finish their high school studies pretty early without all of the distracting classes.”

    Most elite gymnasts are not homeschooled. They usually have private tutors, or their gyms basically have small private schools on site for athletes who want to adopt a more rigorous training schedule than traditional schools allow. They are similar to homeschoolers in that they don’t have to meet the same requirements and they often don’t get a very well-rounded education. I’m guessing most elite gymnasts graduate high school knowing how to read, write, and do gymnastics. I doubt they even know much about academics aside from reading and writing, because studying advanced math or foreign language requires having a qualified instructor who usually isn’t available outside of a real school. Upon graduating from high school, these girls can’t say that they sang in the chorus or learned to maintain a public website, and if they studied chemistry, it was probably a joke by comparison to the chemistry class they would have been required to take in a traditional school.

    Also, don’t assume that starting college early is the same thing as graduating from high school early. Most people who start college early are actually doing dual enrollment, and in the state where I live, you can do this with a high school GPA of only 2.0. This is not something to be impressed by.

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