The 2017 Voronin Cup was held from December 19 through December 20 in Moscow, Russia.
Senior All-Around Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | VT | UB | BB | FX | AA |
1 | Angelina Melnikova | Russia | 14.100 | 13.850 | 12.250 | 13.700 | 53.900 |
2 | Viktoria Komova | Russia | 13.800 | 12.750 | 12.700 | 12.550 | 51.800 |
— | Uliana Perebinosova | Russia | 13.350 | 13.450 | 12.400 | 12.150 | 51.350 |
— | Daria Skrypnik | Russia | 13.400 | 12.850 | 12.350 | 12.200 | 50.800 |
— | Tatiana Nabieva | Russia | 12.650 | 13.050 | 12.300 | 12.250 | 50.250 |
— | Viktoria Trykina | Russia | 13.800 | 10.100 | 13.300 | 12.700 | 49.900 |
3 | Irina Sazonova | Iceland | 13.150 | 12.850 | 11.850 | 11.950 | 49.800 |
4 | Yuliya Inshina | Azerbaijan | 12.200 | 12.550 | 12.150 | 12.450 | 49.350 |
— | Ksenia Artemova | Russia | 12.750 | 12.150 | 11.900 | 11.850 | 48.650 |
5 | Thea Nygaard | Norway | 12.950 | 10.800 | 12.750 | 11.450 | 47.950 |
6 | Alisa Zadvornaya | Donetsk | 12.150 | 10.550 | 12.550 | 12.450 | 47.700 |
— | Varvara Batalova | Russia | 12.700 | 11.600 | 11.100 | 12.200 | 47.600 |
7 | Marina Nekrasova | Azerbaijan | 13.000 | 8.900 | 12.500 | 12.200 | 46.600 |
8 | Anastasiya Dubova | Latvia | 11.950 | 10.650 | 12.500 | 11.350 | 46.450 |
9 | Eleni Eliades | Cyprus | 12.200 | 8.900 | 10.850 | 11.100 | 43.050 |
10 | Sigrun Sigurdardottir | Iceland | 11.750 | 9.300 | 10.700 | 11.200 | 42.950 |
11 | Anastasiya Theocharous | Cyprus | 12.650 | 7.050 | 11.200 | 11.400 | 42.300 |
— | Eleonora Afanasyeva | Russia | 14.000 | —— | 12.550 | 12.200 | 38.750 |
— | Maria Kharenkova | Russia | —— | —— | 12.800 | 14.200 | 27.000 |
— | Anastasia Iliankova | Russia | —— | 12.650 | 12.650 | —— | 25.300 |
12 | Rifda Irfanaluthfi | Indonesia | —— | —— | 11.500 | 12.150 | 23.650 |
13 | Doloksaribu Armartiani | Indonesia | —— | —— | 9.150 | 11.100 | 20.250 |
14 | Oksana Chusovitina | Uzbekistan | 14.350 | —— | —— | —— | 14.350 |
Senior Vault Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | VT 1 | VT 2 | Average |
1 | Oksana Chusovitina | Uzbekistan | 14.400 | 14.266 | 14.333 |
2 | Angelina Melnikova | Russia | 14.233 | 13.800 | 14.017 |
3 | Eleonora Afanasyeva | Russia | 14.466 | 13.233 | 13.850 |
4 | Marina Nekrasova | Azerbaijan | 14.066 | 13.400 | 13.733 |
5 | Thea Nygaard | Norway | 12.433 | 12.466 | 12.450 |
6 | Anastasiya Theocharous | Cyprus | 12.466 | 11.733 | 12.100 |
7 | Sigrun Sigurdardottir | Iceland | 11.133 | 11.933 | 11.533 |
Senior Bars Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | Total |
1 | Uliana Perebinosova | Russia | 14.333 |
2 | Angelina Melnikova | Russia | 13.633 |
3 | Irina Sazonova | Iceland | 12.666 |
4 | Thea Nygaard | Norway | 10.400 |
5 | Alisa Zadvornaya | Donetsk | 9.800 |
6 | Sigrun Sigurdardottir | Iceland | 9.700 |
7 | Anastasiya Dubova | Latvia | 9.200 |
8 | Yuliya Inshina | Azerbaijan | 5.633 |
Senior Beam Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | Total |
1 | Maria Kharenkova | Russia | 13.300 |
2 | Viktoria Trykina | Russia | 13.000 |
3 | Marina Nekrasova | Azerbaijan | 12.433 |
4 | Thea Nygaard | Norway | 12.300 |
5 | Rifda Irfanaluthfi | Indonesia | 11.333 |
6 | Anastasiya Dubova | Latvia | 10.833 |
7 | Alisa Zadvornaya | Donetsk | 10.466 |
8 | Irina Sazonova | Iceland | 9.966 |
Senior Floor Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | Total |
1 | Maria Kharenkova | Russia | 13.066 |
2 | Marina Nekrasova | Azerbaijan | 12.266 |
3 | Rifda Irfanaluthfi | Indonesia | 12.100 |
4 | Alisa Zadvornaya | Donetsk | 12.066 |
5 | Irina Sazonova | Iceland | 11.900 |
6 | Thea Nygaard | Norway | 11.833 |
7 | Sigrun Sigurdardottir | Iceland | 11.600 |
8 | Angelina Melnikova | Russia | 10.966 |
Junior All-Around Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | VT | UB | BB | FX | AA |
1 | Aleksandra Shekoldina | Russia | 13.625 | 14.200 | 12.975 | 13.750 | 54.550 |
2 | Vladislava Urazova | Russia | 14.150 | 12.525 | 13.525 | 13.950 | 54.150 |
— | Varvara Zubova | Russia | 13.050 | 12.700 | 14.250 | 12.300 | 52.300 |
— | Elena Gerasimova | Russia | 12.775 | 13.500 | 13.075 | 12.750 | 52.100 |
3 | Anastasiya Miroshnichenko | Uzbekistan | 13.450 | 12.450 | 11.875 | 12.600 | 50.375 |
— | Ksenia Kamkova | Russia | 13.575 | 12.350 | 11.150 | 13.300 | 50.375 |
4 | Dildora Aripova | Uzbekistan | 12.550 | 11.975 | 12.875 | 12.650 | 50.050 |
— | Elizaveta Volodina | Russia | 12.675 | 11.000 | 13.175 | 12.500 | 49.350 |
5 | Anna Subbotina | Georgia | 13.325 | 11.475 | 12.100 | 12.100 | 49.000 |
— | Anastasiya Kureyeva | Russia | 12.925 | 11.850 | 12.450 | 11.750 | 48.975 |
6 | Elina Vihrova | Latvia | 12.350 | 11.550 | 12.175 | 12.900 | 48.975 |
7 | Mariya Lastovskaya | Belarus | 12.475 | 10.900 | 11.875 | 12.400 | 47.650 |
8 | Lona Häcker | Germany | 12.300 | 10.375 | 11.750 | 11.550 | 45.975 |
9 | Julie Madsø | Norway | 12.850 | 10.225 | 10.675 | 12.050 | 45.800 |
10 | Darya Yassinskaya | Kazakhstan | 12.175 | 8.325 | 11.625 | 12.700 | 44.825 |
11 | Korkem Yerbossynkyzy | Kazakhstan | 12.125 | 9.800 | 11.975 | 10.900 | 44.800 |
12 | Maike Halbisch | Germany | 12.100 | 10.025 | 10.500 | 11.850 | 44.475 |
13 | Viivi Nieminen | Finland | 13.000 | 9.300 | 11.075 | 11.000 | 44.375 |
14 | Helmi Tuohimaki | Finland | 12.575 | 9.750 | 11.500 | 10.450 | 44.275 |
15 | Zala Bedenik | Slovenia | 12.200 | 9.250 | 11.150 | 11.250 | 43.850 |
16 | Anastasiya Savitskaya | Belarus | 11.325 | 10.825 | 10.075 | 11.450 | 43.675 |
17 | Marija Sajovko | Latvia | 11.725 | 10.300 | 10.675 | 10.900 | 43.600 |
— | Stella Neufeld | Germany | 12.725 | 9.600 | 10.350 | 10.800 | 43.475 |
— | Karina Titova | Latvia | 11.725 | 9.975 | 10.800 | 10.700 | 43.200 |
— | Sofia Yurtaykina | Russia | 11.850 | 8.625 | 10.725 | 11.750 | 42.950 |
— | Jana Metelitsa | Belarus | 10.950 | 9.000 | 10.725 | 11.900 | 42.575 |
18 | Mari Kanter | Norway | 11.325 | 8.475 | 11.825 | 10.950 | 42.575 |
— | Taisia Borozdyko | Russia | 12.250 | 7.725 | 11.300 | 10.700 | 41.975 |
19 | Anastasiya Veremyeva | Donetsk | 12.200 | 8.850 | 9.600 | 11.250 | 41.900 |
20 | Yuliya Khorosh | Donetsk | 12.350 | 6.550 | 11.400 | 11.150 | 41.450 |
21 | Gloria Philassides | Cyprus | 12.675 | 6.400 | 9.400 | 11.850 | 40.325 |
22 | Christiana Eleftheriou | Cyprus | 12.025 | 8.525 | 9.375 | 9.950 | 39.875 |
23 | Samira Gahramanova | Azerbaijan | 12.450 | 9.375 | 7.950 | 9.600 | 39.375 |
— | Yuliana Deyeva | Kazakhstan | 11.075 | 7.125 | 9.450 | 11.100 | 38.750 |
— | Olga Astafyeva | Russia | 12.875 | 13.075 | 12.525 | —— | 38.475 |
— | Nelli Audi | Russia | 12.775 | 12.150 | 1.250 | 11.550 | 37.725 |
24 | Malek Sakr | Tunisia | 11.800 | 5.675 | 8.550 | 11.250 | 37.275 |
— | Marie Bishara | Cyprus | 10.700 | 7.725 | 8.325 | 9.550 | 36.300 |
25 | Alma Kirschenbaum | Israel | 11.375 | —— | 10.225 | 10.300 | 31.900 |
— | Daria Belousova | Russia | —— | 13.250 | 13.950 | —— | 27.200 |
26 | Nesrine Fadhlaoui | Tunisia | 10.750 | —— | 8.250 | 8.050 | 27.050 |
— | Viktoria Gorbatova | Russia | —— | 13.925 | 13.000 | —— | 26.925 |
— | Alexandra Shametko | Kazakhstan | —— | —— | 10.200 | 11.250 | 21.450 |
27 | Amalia Chernyshova | Kyrgyzstan | —— | —— | 8.550 | 10.150 | 18.700 |
— | Ksenia Klimenko | Russia | —— | 14.350 | —— | —— | 14.350 |
Junior Vault Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | VT 1 | VT 2 | Average |
1 | Vladislava Urazova | Russia | 14.066 | 13.866 | 13.966 |
2 | Anna Subbotina | Georgia | 13.433 | 13.700 | 13.567 |
3 | Darya Yassinskaya | Kazakhstan | 13.566 | 13.500 | 13.533 |
4 | Anastasiya Miroshnichenko | Uzbekistan | 13.300 | 13.700 | 13.500 |
5 | Ksenia Kamkova | Russia | 13.366 | 13.600 | 13.483 |
6 | Julie Madsø | Norway | 12.700 | 12.166 | 12.433 |
7 | Viivi Nieminen | Finland | 11.900 | 12.766 | 12.333 |
8 | Mariya Lastovskaya | Belarus | 11.233 | 11.833 | 11.533 |
Junior Bars Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | Total |
1 | Aleksandra Shekoldina | Russia | 12.600 |
2 | Ksenia Klimenko | Russia | 12.100 |
3 | Elina Vihrova | Latvia | 12.000 |
4 | Anastasiya Miroshnichenko | Uzbekistan | 11.666 |
5 | Dildora Aripova | Uzbekistan | 11.633 |
6 | Anna Subbotina | Georgia | 11.033 |
7 | Mariya Lastovskaya | Belarus | 10.966 |
8 | Anastasiya Savitskaya | Belarus | 10.666 |
Junior Beam Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | Total |
1 | Varvara Zubova | Russia | 14.066 |
2 | Darya Belousova | Russia | 12.333 |
3 | Elina Vihrova | Latvia | 12.300 |
4 | Dildora Aripova | Uzbekistan | 11.500 |
5 | Mariya Lastovskaya | Belarus | 11.066 |
6 | Anna Subbotina | Georgia | 10.566 |
7 | Anastasiya Miroshnichenko | Uzbekistan | 10.300 |
8 | Korkem Yerbossynkyzy | Kazakhstan | 10.266 |
Junior Floor Final Results
Rank | Athlete | Nation | Total |
1 | Vladislava Urazova | Russia | 13.866 |
2 | Dildora Aripova | Uzbekistan | 12.800 |
3 | Aleksandra Shekoldina | Russia | 12.766 |
4 | Elina Vihrova | Latvia | 12.700 |
5 | Mariya Lastovskaya | Belarus | 12.333 |
6 | Anastasiya Miroshnichenko | Uzbekistan | 12.166 |
7 | Darya Yassinskaya | Kazakhstan | 11.966 |
8 | Anna Subbotina | Georgia | 11.800 |
Uncharacteristically low bars score for Vika. Did she fall? Or is she easing back in with a really watered down routine?
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I watched and she had a form break and a couple late piros in addition to lower than usual difficulty. I am however happy with her difficulty on floor and beam where she has a double arabian on floor as an opening pass and a standing arabian on beam.
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She has basically her same routine but like Ashton, competed toe-ons instead of inbars. Her D score should be around a 5.5, but I believe she only got credited with 5.1 because she did four toe-on skills. Only three of the same family are counted, so her fourth toe-on — the D-rated toe full — didn’t count. I’m wondering if she also lost CR for that as well, because if the skill didn’t count and that was her pirouetting skill, she technically missed having a pirouette in her routine.
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Maloney(D)+Pak(D)+0.1
Van Veeuwen(E)
Toe-on Circle 1/2(C)+Piked Jaeger(E)
Toe-on Circle 1/1+Tkachev(D)
Giant(B)+Double Tuck 1/1 dismount(D)
EEDDDDCB 3.1, CV 0.1, CR 1.5
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Who on earth gave Melnikova those scores.. They don’t even look like how bad her meet was, again, unfortunately.. 13.7 on floor is a joke..
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Honestly I was expecting it to be higher hahaha…I think at nationals two falls would’ve gotten her like a 56. I have such low expectations for Russia scoring accurately, I was fully expecting her to get like a 55-56 after those routines so I’m like WOW it’s only like 2-3 points higher than it should be instead of like, 5 points higher.
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Melnikova was very overscored at Voronin cup but it’s not the case at every domestic competition. At the Russian championships for example, Eremina was credited with 56.1 for a good day, without any major mistake, and at the World championships, she had 54.799 with a major mistake on UB. So, she was correctly scored at home, maybe slightly overscored, but by no way 5 points higher !
At the National championships, Hurd had 55.650 with a fall and at Monteal 55.232 without any fall …
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Many of the Russian Championships scores are out of control just as many of the U.S. Championships scores are, the Romanian Championships, and literally every single domestic meet in the world. We’re talking about Russia here, not the U.S. or any other country, because this competition was in russia. There’s no need to be like “THE US OVERSCORES TOO!!!111!!111!!!111!!!!” whenever someone says a Russian meet is overscored. When I talk about the U.S. being overscored at home, I don’t feel the need to also be like “BUT RUSSIA IS OVERSCORED TOO!!!!11!!!!!!11111!!!11!!” so I don’t get everyone needing to go on the defensive when anyone refers to a Russian domestic meet as being overscored. THEY ALL ARE. END OF STORY. LET’S STOP DEBATING IT PLZ.
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I just said that Russia’s scores are not always inflated, and, when they are, not systematically for the same gymnasts, and never by 5 points ! And, yes, you wrote many many times that Russian scores are the most inflated in the world ! And I didn’t tell that Hurd was massively overscored at nationals, but slightly … So no reason to get angry.
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I’d never say Russia’s are the most inflated because they’re not. Romania’s are.
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(And I say this empirically because I’ve actually done the math over a four-year period comparing domestic and international scores. Romania has the largest gaps and is thus the most overscored domestically. Russia also trends in the domestic overscoring range, though not as bad as most people would think (only a couple of tenths on average), whereas the U.S. actually on average scores almost exactly the same internationally and domestically, even though many routines at nationals are overscored. I’ll never forget in both 2012 and 2016 seeing Russian and Romanian stans talk about U.S. overscoring, saying they’ll “never score that high at the Olympics”…and then they actually scored either the same or HIGHER at the Olympics. Case in point: Aly’s bars. She generally scored between a 14 and a 14.4 for hit routines. Anti-U.S. gym fans said “she’ll get at least a point lower at the Olympics.” But her scores were in the same range with zero discrepancy (and actually trended higher in Rio than domestically for hit routines). So when I say “Romania is grossly overscored” it’s because I’ve done the math and they are. When I say “Russia is overscored” it’s because they are, generally by a tenth or two on most routines, though many routines — like the majority of Melnikova’s this year — have been between 0.5 and 1.0 higher, though some OTHER routines — like many of Eremina’s — are accurate between the two. And when I say “the U.S. isn’t as overscored” it’s because the majority of routines are within range internationally and domestically, though there are always those few that get higher scores at home (Jordyn Wieber’s beam most of the time, as one of the biggest offenders, and beam in general is where the U.S. tends to have the highest discrepancies between home and abroad). So like…yeah. I’ve done the math literally every year for at least six seasons and am not just “saying things.” I am not “angry” when people say “the U.S. is overscored!!!!111!!!11111!!” whenever anyone brings up Russian domestic overscoring, but it is annoying to see the same comment repeatedly anytime the Russian overscoring is mentioned when it has nothing to do with the U.S. When I talk about U.S. overscoring, which I do at pretty much every single domestic meet I’ve ever been to in the U.S., I don’t need to be like “BUT RUSSIA IS OVERSCORED TOOOOO!!!!!!!!” When I talk about overscoring, it’s about countries relative to themselves between domestic and international competitions, not relative to other countries. Literally every single national meet this year from every single country had overscored routines. You don’t feel the need to be like “BUT SOUTH AFRICA AND GERMANY ARE OVERSCORED TOO!!!!!” every time Russia’s domestic overscoring is mentioned, so why mention the U.S. lol??? It has literally nothing to do with anyone except Russia in this case, and if these were U.S. results and I was discussing overscoring, it would have nothing to do with anyone but the U.S. It’s literally so boring to see the same comment repeatedly when it has nothing to do with anything that’s being said.
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As much as I enjoy your Blog Lauren, I need to answer your questions now although you probably very much dislike me afterwards. 1)Regarding mentioning USA overscoring when Russian overscoring is mentioned: USA is on top so it is the biggest rival to every other gymnastics country, thus the country which will be most compared to. That’s a natural thing, on the top you’re always alone and the most looked at. Plus, you’re very likely an american so people will be comparing the stuff you say most likely to your country. If you would have been in the UK, there would be more comparison to the UK I guess. 2) Regarding overscorong statistics: The USA, currently being at the top has an immense impact not only on national scoring. A Gymnast from USA will get a better score than a gymnast from Angola for the exact identical routine so the statistics draw not a 100% right image here. Russia, despite having an impact, doesn’t have an as big impact so the gymnast will get a bit more hammered, so the statistic difference will be bigger. I hope you find this helpful an can stop breaking your head about this whole WHY questions
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the same goes woth gymnasts: if somebody says simone is overscored most people would rather say”catalina too” instead of “marlies männersdorfer too” because catalina is more competitive and on top than marlies
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I compared with USA because I speak of what I know and,unfortunately, I don’t follow South African gym. Among the countries I follow, USA scores are inflated, China and France scores aren’t. I just wanted to compare two cases : Eremina, Russian, with the reigning world champion, Hurd.
And I’m sorry but you laugh at Russian scores much more often than at US scores.
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Lauren, I read tour long text and I agree with you, and the goal of my post was exactly this one : Melnikova is incredibly overscored at home compared with other gymnasts (Eremina or Kharenkova). Why ? That’s an interesting question because the selection of the international team is based on results at domestic competition. We all remember that there were some contention about the Rio US selection, precisely about Gabby Douglas spot in the US team and suspect of favoritism. So the Russian situation is much more crazy : how to explain that judges in a national competition advantage so much a gymnast (Melnikova) compared to others ? And that’s exactly why I underlined that all Russian gymnasts were not ALL overscored in domestic competitions.
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Damn. Eremina gets another vacation and Melnikova gets another competition.
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Yeah just frickin rest Melka because she IS AN ASSET TO YOU!
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Except Voronin cup, Eremina and Melnikova had the same number of competition in 2017. Both competed at the Russian championships in march, Jesolo in april, European championship in Napoca in april, Russian cup in Ekaterinbourg, World championships in Montreal. Eremina competed in DTB Pokal and Toyota international – Melnikova in Stuttgart and Mexican Open. And as Eremina made more finals, in fact, she probably competed more than Melka.
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Yeah, but Eremina got more rest time. She got a rest after Cluj, one in Spain, one after worlds, and one right now. Melnikova only got a few days or a week after worlds.
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Maybe it’s just that Eremina’s family have more money to travel abroad ?
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i don’t remember what was after Cluj but spain was a training camp where gelya was too and she just got a week at home (the pictures she posted on IG were old ones) whereas Melnikova flew to Bali with het family for one week. After the Voronin Cup she herself said to the journalists that she doesn’t feel tired or in a need to rest but feels fit and has a desire to train more difficult Elements. Rest/Vacations are really not the problem here
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One of the problem is about Melnikovas’coach. Why did she upgrade her beam to a 6.4 D.score when she couldn’t do her 5.7 routine without fall(s) and mistakes ?
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Yeah but what Melnikova says may be much different than whats actually going on. Mykayla Maroney was singing a similar tune after Antwerp and then we saw what was actually going on.
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Also, props to you Lauren for being ON TOP OF YOUR GAME recently. You seem to post an informational post AND a QnA almost every day! You go, i’m so grateful and thankful for all of your work! ❤
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The senior competition was very disappointing : Komova and Melnikova seemed exhausted and Perebinosova had big mistakes. The junior field was, as usual, very interesting, with a wonderful Klimenko on bars and a very promising Schekoldina.
Simakova and Eremina deserved their holiday because they have nothing more to prove at the end of this year.
I just miss some gymnasts : Kapitonova, Tutkhalyan … I hope they will soon come back.
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Personally I was not expecting Komova to look as good as she did – this her first competition in 2 years because of spinal fractures and she freely admits that she these were low difficulty routines that she put together after a few months of training
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I don’t think we’ll see either back competing for Russia again. Kapitonova basically got blacklisted by the Rods after Euros and I mean Seda.. is Seda..
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Nabs!
(obligatory Nabs shout out 😂)
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Good to see Nabs back. She really should work on her vaulting as with Paseka out for a year the Russian team needs a vaulter
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How come some gymnasts were “unranked” or tied when they all had different all around scores?
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It was only two-per-country, so after the top two scores for each country, no other scores counted.
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what happened to kharenkova’s floor score? from a 14.2 to just over 13.
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HA HA Chuso one more time! I hope she’ll never retire! Shes become a living legend now and just her name being announced triggers massive applause in the arena.
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