21 thoughts on “The Best Scores in 2022 | April Update”

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2. Eyes roll for those domestic scores (apply to almost every country) 😛

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   • Yeah, they’re all bad but Russia is NEXT-LEVEL. I saw Listunova had a 14.0 on beam in the AA final and was like oh that’s really good for a hit routine! Then watched the routine yesterday and that was WITH A FALL as well as wobbles on basically every skill, so it probably would have been like a 15.5 if it was perfectly hit hahahaha. Oh Russia.

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3. Russia scores are bogus though. They have bonus added into their routines for certain skills and attempted connections. Not to mention suspicious E scores, where the video evidence shows otherwise.
   11 out of the top 20 are Russians and all of them have scores from Russian Championships.
   Can’t really include those scores here as they wouldn’t be valid D scores (and overall score) at an international meet. Not at least without an asterisk or side bar explaining domestic bonus was used for Russian athletes. Compared to McClain’s score which is a legitimate all around score.

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   • Most domestic meets have nonsense scoring and always have. I’ve included plenty of wild Russian scores in the past, but also plenty of wild scores from China, Romania, the U.S., Ukraine, Brazil, France, Great Britain, Belarus, Lithuania, Chile, South Africa, Japan, Canada…right now, only a few countries have had domestic meets so it’s more out of whack than it would be later in the season when most countries have held national meets. I’ve been doing top scores for 8 years and never include a “domestic vs. international” disclaimer because the meet names basically ARE that disclaimer…but at the end of the year I always share a top international scores list as well as a list with all scores. During the year, the updates just include all and people can pick out the ones that are international and those that aren’t.

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     • I think you are confused about my initial comment, so let me clarify.

       I totally get domestic vs international scoring and yeah no need for disclaimer obviously.

       However, I am not talking domestic scoring in terms of lenient execution scores.

       Russian Nationals uses internal bonus, so these scores are not legit at all. That is what I am trying to say here.

       USA MAG introduced a bonus system to reward trying for difficulty as USAG knows that USA MAG won’t medal simply because of lower difficulty than Japan, China, and Russia.

       The score at Winter Cup were simply NOT legitimate as someone like Yul Moldauer had .944 in bonus on parallel bars for example.

       That is why I said there should be a disclaimer for Russian Nationals due to using a domestic bonus system.
       I would advocate for the same disclaimer for USA MAG scores due to using a domestic bonus system.

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       • The internal bonus Russia uses isn’t “officially” a bonus, though, not in the way they used at Winter Cup for MAG, or at Serie A, or at basically any other meet that has a bonus. They just score everyone high, on every routine, regardless of who it is or what they’re doing. It’s a domestic bonus in the sense that they wouldn’t be getting those scores elsewhere, but the same can be said for almost any national program, though most usually aren’t nearly as high as Russia’s scores (aside from Ukraine and Belarus). They don’t have a structured system in place like programs that DO use D or E bonuses. They’re not doing something like “this beam routine scored an 8.4 so that means it gets five tenths in bonus for scoring above an 8.0.” They just give it an 8.9 because they ignore lots of deductions that exist outside of Russia. Routines with multiple falls get the same “execution bonuses” as perfect routines so there’s definitely no “bonus” given for well-executed routines, they just don’t care about half of the deductions that exist. It’s always been this way and I think the majority of people looking at these scores know that, and know that Russians won’t score anywhere near internationally what they do at home.

         I remove all official bonuses from scores, and if a scoring system does use bonus but doesn’t explain why or where (e.g. Elite Canada novice level scoring) I don’t include those scores. But in cases where it’s just domestic scoring being wild with zero rhyme or reason, it sucks to have several ridiculous scores rule the top scores list but it is what it is, and like I said, that’s why I also do an international-only list. If I put a disclaimer on Russia’s scoring, I’d also have to be subjectively like “ok this score seems way too high, so does this one…” Like, Jordan Chiles’ domestic scores last year were way too high, but the U.S. kind of picks and chooses who they go overboard with, so I wouldn’t want to be like “disclaimer: Jordan’s scores aren’t real” because I subjectively felt they weren’t accurate. With these lists you just kind of have to be aware that domestic scoring is not accurate and grin and bear it.

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   • Yeah like I LOVE Jessica Gadirova on FX, but that 14.6 was… generous. It was great but not better than last years Euros or Tokyo EF lol

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4. Didn’t Zoe Miller have a 6.5 bar routine?

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   • Yes! Idk how that got lost in my spreadsheet…I probably didn’t scroll up high enough hahaha. Thank you!

     I just checked and I also missed another 6.5 as well as Listunova’s 6.4 so my scroll was DEFINITELY off that day.

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5. Listunova univen bars 6.6 D score Russian Championships 2022.

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6. Listunova univen bars 6.6 D score Russian Championships AA 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6maB9OvT8Gs

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   • Thank you! Unfortunately there’s no record of the judges giving it a 6.6 either from the stream or from official results. I only include official results, not fan-constructed D scores (even if those D scores are accurate) because we don’t know what the judges actually rewarded (mostly because we can calculate a 7.0 attempted beam D and then see that the judges have given it a 5.5 with everything downgraded). Even though this is far less rare with bars, and the person who put this video together did an excellent job, I keep the same rule across the board. But we can say unofficially a 6.6 is the highest!

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     • 6.6 is it official result Listunova univen bars AA Russian Championships/

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       • Do you have the results? I don’t see the D scores posted anywhere.

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7. In the same place where you saw Minaeva univen bars 6.4 D score Russian Championships AA/

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   • I saw that on the stream flashed on the scoreboard. They didn’t show Listunova’s score on the stream.

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     • If you do not change D score of Listunova, then you will get incorrect statistics on the uneven bars.

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       • Thanks – I’ll edit it and add her AA D score.

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8. Thank you!

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   • You’re welcome! Thanks for pointing it out.

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